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HawkofStorms · Sep 05, 2010, 10:57 PM // 22:57

This game is far from dead. It's still the 4th most played MMO in North America according to XFire statistics.

It's not as popular as it was, but it is not "dead." I've played "dead" MMOs before (Warhammer Online, Aion, Tabula Rasa). Trust me, GW is far from "dead."

Killed u man · Sep 05, 2010, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by lemming

a. Ladder only looks dead because everyone's playing on sub-100 guilds for faster matches.

b. GvG isn't closed off as long as you actually try to get in. Where do you think yawn came from?

a) Exactly.

b) Yeah, when you can get 7 other people, and start from scratch, sure. However, this late in the game, where are you going to find 7 other people?

My point was that there never was any, obvious, way for anyone to join the GvG scene aside from forums (non official) or PM'ing people through observer.

Mashiyu · Sep 05, 2010, 11:17 PM // 23:17

It really depends on who you ask. People here on guru are generally more pessimistic - unlike wartower (a German fan site). If you dare to say "gw is dead" on wartower, you'll be flamed over at least one forum page.

And if you are in an active guild, you don't care how "dead" the rest of gw is. I've seen guilds dying, but not gw.

Missing HB · Sep 06, 2010, 07:07 AM // 07:07

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

a) Exactly.

b) Yeah, when you can get 7 other people, and start from scratch, sure. However, this late in the game, where are you going to find 7 other people?

My point was that there never was any, obvious, way for anyone to join the GvG scene aside from forums (non official) or PM'ing people through observer.

Yes , thats all the point , it's not really easy to find the same 8 people ( or even 6 ) online at same times , and if you consider you need a lot of time to practice GvG , wait opponent , etc.. ( means you at least need to expect these people to stay 4 hours + ), it seems almost impossible... Except for some people who play 24/7 ( and who hazardly are the terrible bspammers you mentionned), people will just not bother with GvG ...

Gill Halendt · Sep 06, 2010, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

This game is far from dead. It's still the 4th most played MMO in North America according to XFire statistics.

It's not as popular as it was, but it is not "dead." I've played "dead" MMOs before (Warhammer Online, Aion, Tabula Rasa). Trust me, GW is far from "dead."

This.

Yes, a lot of players I knew quit indeed. Tough new infos about the sequel, GW:Beyond and deals on digital delivery channels such as Steam or Direct2Drive are bringing a lot of players back, and a lot of new players in.

Wish Swiftdeath · Sep 06, 2010, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I keep trying to improve but it's hard to find a decent guild these days, I reckon I could play around r200 but there aren't many active guilds in that range so I'm stuck playing with crappier guilds farming gvg zquest day and grinding fame.

It's pretty much a closed door unless you have friends, so to the OP low end PvP is fine, high end pvp is totally not worth it - as for pve... heroes

Corporeal Ghost · Sep 06, 2010, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by lemming

Ladder only looks dead because everyone's playing on sub-100 guilds for faster matches.

It's roughly the same at the top, but match wait times in the middle and at the bottom have been getting progressively longer (American timezones). I also think you're about to see a significant downswing as summer comes to an end.

Morphy · Sep 07, 2010, 06:00 AM // 06:00

For most low-end non-random stuff (Codex, AB and PvE), you can usually find PuGs to play with if a zaishen quest for it is around. AB and some popular PvE areas such as the UW and farmable dungeons are pretty full most of the time, although most people in AB play on the kurzick side because the map rotation is off. As for GvG and HA, you always needed a rank or some other sign of experience to join teams, so not much changed there. GW is still very playable and if you insist on playing with PuGs, there is plenty of options as well.

Femmefatal · Sep 10, 2010, 10:16 AM // 10:16

With so many other mmo/mmorpgs coming to the "free to play no monthly fees" like Everquest II and Lords of the Ring Online and Anarchy Online and a few others I think the population is going to spread out a lot more. EQ2 and Anarchy Online are totally free now you don't even have to buy the initial releases. Just download and play. I've been playing EQ2 and it's great. I really enjoy the mission sequences and how the game guides you along your first few hours/days of play. Guild Wars was nice while it lasted and in its early hayday when it was skill>time played but it changed so much it frustrated too many players and just isn't what it promised to be origionally anymore.

Xydrych · Sep 11, 2010, 04:46 PM // 16:46

It's still going...